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Is CEF dead?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:53 pm
by maffle
I just learned the other day "by accident", that the last stable version of CEF is based on Chromium 78 or 79. That was actually a huge surprise and more of a shock to me, because of so many software using CEF, one of the bigger ones for example Steam.

Why is CEF lacking behind that much, where latest Chromium is 89 now?

Thats a huge security concern but also a performance issue.

Lots of important patches were made since 79, which for example would cause GPU drivers to crash on Windows or perform badly.

Is CEF still being developed? What is the reason it is lacking behind that much to stable Chromium?

Re: Is CEF dead?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:12 pm
by magreenblatt
Where do you get your information? The latest version is 89, same as Chromium stable. https://cef-builds.spotifycdn.com/index.html

Re: Is CEF dead?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:48 am
by Czarek
Fake news :)

Re: Is CEF dead?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:40 am
by maffle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_ ... _Framework

says: Stable release 78.3.9+gc7345f2+chromium-78.0.3904.108[1]

If you open Steam (latest beta to make sure it is latest version) web browser chrome://gpu it says:

https://i.imgur.com/vsQZf4r.png

You can see from the Skia renderer it is CEF 79.

Also looking at the driver bug and performance fixes:

https://i.imgur.com/45AxPce.png

it is very old compared to latest Chromium 89:

https://i.imgur.com/Ws4Nbvk.png

Especially the workaround "disable_decode_swap_chain" is important, because it causes Intel GPU driver to crash on Windows if you play videos through Chromium.

Re: Is CEF dead?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:01 pm
by magreenblatt
Obviously we have no control over the frequency of CEF updates in Steam. I suggest you contact Valve Software.